Designing the Second Chapter
of Work and Life

Most people treat a career transition like it’s all or nothing. It’s not.

I’m a product manager applying the same thinking from my work to figure out what comes next.
 
This podcast is for professionals who are good at their jobs, not sure that’s enough anymore, but not ready to make a reckless leap.

Designing the Second Chapter
of Work and Life

Designing the
Second Chapter
of Work and Life

Most people treat a career transition like it’s all or nothing. It’s not.
I’m a product manager applying the same thinking from my work to figure out what comes next.
 
This podcast is for professionals who are good at their jobs, not sure that’s enough anymore, but not ready to make a reckless leap.

Helene Amster Kopel

I’m Helene Amster Kopel — product leader, recovering overachiever, and someone who is very much still in the middle of figuring this out.
 
I’ve spent 20+ years building and scaling digital products. I’m good at it. And a few years ago I started asking the question a lot of people in my position quietly ask: is this still the thing I want to be building toward? … Read More

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Product Leader | 20+ Years Building & Scaling Digital Products | Thinking out loud about the transition to what’s next — for anyone else figuring it out too.
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